Comments on: Please somebody help me http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/ (Mostly) Technical Blog Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:05:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Florent Thoumie http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10480 Florent Thoumie Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:26:33 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-10480 Thanks for the kind comment. I hope compiz/beryl current maintainer is working on fusion too, there have been nice improvements lately. Thanks for the kind comment.

I hope compiz/beryl current maintainer is working on fusion too, there have been nice improvements lately.

]]> By: Felix http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10479 Felix Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:26:11 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-10479 Frenchie joke: Il semblerait que la stupidité soit dans l'air du temps dans la monde francophone; j'ai raison parce que MOI, je le di: où avais-je entendu récemment ce genre de discours... Frenchie joke: Il semblerait que la stupidité soit dans l’air du temps dans la monde francophone; j’ai raison parce que MOI, je le di: où avais-je entendu récemment ce genre de discours…

]]> By: Felix http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10477 Felix Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:20:29 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-10477 Dear Florent, A long time since i didn't read on your blog - I've been quite busy, and I've been missing it. So let's start with the obvious one: GREAT JOB ! With Xorg up to date, BSD gains a lot of killer-apps - like beryl or now "compiz fusion". Since I wasn't able at all to do only part of what you've done, I'm really greatful for your work. Now about those ***** who don't know what they 're talking about but can't help sucking everyone: guys, you were SOOOO patient, I really admiring you. If one starts to insult me in that way, I would dream all day about murdering. This shows one important thing to me: within the BSD community, there are guys who spend part of their time replying even to those kind of people; and this is simply great. Hate them, ignore them: just like everyone. But once you talk to them, you become wise. Go one. Keep the opensource world beeing a source of wisdom. Felix Dear Florent,

A long time since i didn’t read on your blog – I’ve been quite busy, and I’ve been missing it. So let’s start with the obvious one: GREAT JOB ! With Xorg up to date, BSD gains a lot of killer-apps – like beryl or now “compiz fusion”. Since I wasn’t able at all to do only part of what you’ve done, I’m really greatful for your work.

Now about those ***** who don’t know what they ‘re talking about but can’t help sucking everyone: guys, you were SOOOO patient, I really admiring you. If one starts to insult me in that way, I would dream all day about murdering. This shows one important thing to me: within the BSD community, there are guys who spend part of their time replying even to those kind of people; and this is simply great. Hate them, ignore them: just like everyone. But once you talk to them, you become wise.

Go one. Keep the opensource world beeing a source of wisdom.

Felix

]]> By: Florent Thoumie http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9362 Florent Thoumie Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:09:03 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-9362 @tabbot: I'm just being defensive, I'm not being condescending. I'm sorry if something went wrong with the upgrade, especially if I nobody's been able to help you (I have no idea who you are but I don't think I've been rude to anybody on IRC). I have been away from lists and IRC lately for personal reasons but I'm sure you can drop by anytime and ask for help again. Anyway, you're completely out of the subject, You're complaining about the upgrade process, and he's complaining about how things work in FreeBSD. While I can be blamed for the former, the latter is *design*. Such upgrade hasn't really happened before either. @tabbot: I’m just being defensive, I’m not being condescending. I’m sorry if something went wrong with the upgrade, especially if I nobody’s been able to help you (I have no idea who you are but I don’t think I’ve been rude to anybody on IRC). I have been away from lists and IRC lately for personal reasons but I’m sure you can drop by anytime and ask for help again.

Anyway, you’re completely out of the subject, You’re complaining about the upgrade process, and he’s complaining about how things work in FreeBSD. While I can be blamed for the former, the latter is design.

Such upgrade hasn’t really happened before either.

]]> By: tabbot http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9361 tabbot Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:09:09 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-9361 You: "If there’s only one thing you should remember about my post, let it be that bashing is authorized, but please get a clue first." ... It's your condescending attitude that puts people off you m8. Your approach to freebsd PR is gunho! I wish you'd at least once in a while listen to users (like me). ps: I had a run in with you at IRC last week, which would explain my negative attitude towards you. I use freebsd because i'm used to it and too old to switch, I browse the lists sometimes, I've never contributed, I'm a maths teacher - not a coder. i don't have time to write docs. my complaint is this xorg upgrade was botched :( you are very defensive about it on the blog, lists. the wiki article is bare, I didn't get much "clue" from it. imho, this hasn't really happened before.... You: “If there’s only one thing you should remember about my post, let it be that bashing is authorized, but please get a clue first.” ...

It’s your condescending attitude that puts people off you m8. Your approach to freebsd PR is gunho! I wish you’d at least once in a while listen to users (like me).

ps: I had a run in with you at IRC last week, which would explain my negative attitude towards you.

I use freebsd because i’m used to it and too old to switch, I browse the lists sometimes, I’ve never contributed, I’m a maths teacher – not a coder. i don’t have time to write docs. my complaint is this xorg upgrade was botched :( you are very defensive about it on the blog, lists. the wiki article is bare, I didn’t get much “clue” from it. imho, this hasn’t really happened before….

]]> By: Mark Linimon http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9291 Mark Linimon Wed, 30 May 2007 06:02:17 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-9291 I note that the number of people who want to complain outnumbered the people who helped test along the way. Right now FreeBSD is very frustrating, but I am hoping this is one of those cycles that seems to come and go. I recommend just stepping away from it for a few days. And yes, in theory it would have been nice to do the Firefox upgrade in isolation, but without a half-dozen people who want to dedicate all their time to doing the work to branch the ports tree, it would have been completely infeasible. But I, too, hope the "silly-season" ends soon. It is becoming very tiring. mcl I note that the number of people who want to complain outnumbered the people who helped test along the way.

Right now FreeBSD is very frustrating, but I am hoping this is one of those cycles that seems to come and go. I recommend just stepping away from it for a few days.

And yes, in theory it would have been nice to do the Firefox upgrade in isolation, but without a half-dozen people who want to dedicate all their time to doing the work to branch the ports tree, it would have been completely infeasible.

But I, too, hope the “silly-season” ends soon. It is becoming very tiring.

mcl

]]> By: Gusi http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9276 Gusi Tue, 29 May 2007 17:46:11 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-9276 Well, at least he found the right direction on his own (staying with linux) so he won't be asking silly questions there around ... Well, at least he found the right direction on his own (staying with linux) so he won’t be asking silly questions there around …

]]> By: gabor http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9226 gabor Mon, 28 May 2007 17:00:44 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-9226 Well, I'm sad to be aggressive, too. :) But being aggressive is better than criticising gratuitously and doing it without not too much knowledge about FreeBSD. Well, I’m sad to be aggressive, too. :) But being aggressive is better than criticising gratuitously and doing it without not too much knowledge about FreeBSD.

]]> By: mezz http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9225 mezz Mon, 28 May 2007 16:13:58 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-9225 Just ignore him. Let him go. He is not worth to worry about. You are wasting your time with him. Just ignore him. Let him go. He is not worth to worry about. You are wasting your time with him.

]]> By: me http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/comment-page-1/#comment-9224 me Mon, 28 May 2007 16:09:26 +0000 http://blog.xbsd.org/2007/05/28/please-somebody-help-me/#comment-9224 That guy is like a child, "I just want my new Firefox in 3 minutes !!!! Gimmmmeee", a good note was made there - "Why don't you write your own OS - then maybe you'll shut up". That guy is like a child, “I just want my new Firefox in 3 minutes ! Gimmmmeee”, a good note was made there – “Why don’t you write your own OS - then maybe you’ll shut up”.

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